Okay, papa’s diving right in here because papa’s only got a few hours before he has to take his computer in to get looked at and hopefully fixed. Remember, if you just want a straight link to the podcast and don’t want to fuss with our player, or our RSS feed, or Stitcher or iTunes or anything, look to this post’s first comment where you can grab something to copy and paste to your preferences. Okay? Okay.
And I’m tucking the rest of this sucker behind the jump because this is a *heavy* image post.
00:00-2:34: Introduction! Graeme has a message for the listeners! A strangely intimate message! A terrifying and strangely intimate message!
2:34-1:03:37: And then we are off to the races! Because we were recording this on the day the the #fourcomics meme was breaking across Twitter, Graeme and I brainstorm some lists of our own four comics, with maybe a bit more context than you would get if we were just tweeting them (kind of a shame in a way, since one of the things Graeme really appreciated about the #fourcomics meme was how little context or justification people gave. Hopefully we can make up for the overabundance of context with a matching superabundance of enthusiasm?)
Anyway, Graeme had three lists of four comics each:
Four Comics That Made Graeme Rethink What Comics Can Do
Doom Patrol #42 (the Flex Mentallo issue) by Grant Morrison, Mike Dringenberg, Doug Hazelwood, and Daniel Vozzo
Four Comics That Got Graeme Hooked In The First Place
(all from different times—trust me, listen to Graeme’s explanation and it’ll make sense):
2000 A.D. Prog #228 (first appearance of Rogue Trooper!) by
Rogue Trooper – Rogue Trooper (Gerry Finley-Day – Dave Gibbons)
Nemesis the Warlock – book one (part 7) (Pat Mills – Kevin O’Neill)
Judge Dredd – Judge Death Lives (part 5 – final part) (John Wagner and Alan Grant – Brian Bolland)
The Mean Arena – The Penzance Riggers (part 3) (Tom Tully -Eric Bradbury)
Strontium Dog – The Kid Knee Caper (part 1) (Alan Grant – Carlos Ezquerra)
Four Comics That Got Graeme Back In When He Thought He Was Out
Not a bad little set of comics, eh? And, in case you were wondering (and we hope you were because he’s also part of the podcast):
Four Comics That Got Jeff Hooked In The First Place
(but because Jeff forgot he had fourissues he also much later lists:
Four Comics That Made Jeff Rethink What Comics Can Do
Arcade #6 by R. Crumb (Bearzy Wearzies!), Ted Richards (Willy!) Bill Griffith (Toadettes!), S. Clay Wilson, Justin Green, Kim Deitch, Spain Rodriguez, and most especially Art Spiegelman (Nervous Rex!) (among many others)
(but of course Jeff has since wondered if he should have instead picked Jim #3 (vol. 1) by Jim Woodring which is why you can see it up there at the top of the post…because Jeff’s a cheater)
Four Comics That Got Jeff Back In When He Thought He Was Out
Weirdo #12 by J.R. Williams, Peter Bagge, Bill Griffith, B.N. Duncan, Brad Johnson, Ken Struck, Ken Weiner, Ashleigh Talbot, Josh Alan Friedman and Drew Friedman, Dennis Worden, J.D. King, Xno, Rory Hayes, Bob X, Jim Woodring, and of course Robert Crumb
2000 A.D., edited by Matt Smith (from prog. 1806 on, in Jeff’s case) so:
Judge Dredd – The Cold Deck (part 1) (Al Ewing – Henry Flint)
The Simping Detective – Jokers to the Right (part 3) (Simon Spurrier – Simon Coleby)
ABC Warriors – Return to Earth (part 7) (Pat Mills – Clint Langley)
Brass Sun – The Wheel of Worlds (part 7) (Ian Edginton – I.N.J.Culbard)
Low Life – Saudade (part 2) (Rob Williams – D’Israeli)
Also discussed: Kyle Baker and Evan Dorkin, “Lester Fenton and the Walking Dead,” Guido Crepax, Zombo by Al Ewing and Henry Flint, The Walking Dead (sans Lester Fenton), The Fuse, Jess’s Tricky Cad, Chester Gould, and, as you cn probably imagine, much, much more.
1:03:37-1:21:08: Okay, enough old stuff! How about (new) Secret Wars? How about Marvel’s (new) live press conference, available on YouTube? Should we call it a reboot? A stealthboot? A backboot? And would all press conferences improve if they were held in comic book shops? Where will Skull The Slayer pop up? We are here to ask the hard questions, and then make up the goofy answers!
1:21:08-1:49:37: Graeme has not made it to the comic store, so Jeff tries not to give too much stuff away when gabbing about Star Wars #1 by Jason Aaron and John Cassaday which he got via Lootcrate; but he spends more time worrying about the fate of Batman and Robin by Peter Tomasi and Patrick Gleason & Mick Gray after reading issue #38; and The Kitchen #1 and #2 by Oliver Masters and Ming Doyle. Also, Jeff worries about the feeling he gets from Batman Eternal, which is that the creators are both rushing and stalling at the same time, and of course that leads to us spending a lot of time talking about the origin, design, and cybernetic hairnet of Brainiac, which leads to a very long discussion about John Byrne and Superman and just how very bad Future’s End has become.
1:49:37-2:06:17: Jeff has spoken on several occasions about his frustration about an inability for so many people to tell a good Superman story. Graeme has been thinking about this and has come up with a theory as to why this is the case. (It’s around 1:56:00 that Ernie and Gus Gus decide they have a lot to say on the subject, too.) With a chunk of conversation on the need for good Superman villains, the need for good supervillains, and the modern day handling of supervillains, old and new. Bonus: Graeme talks about talking to The Riddler and Leslie Tompkins.
2:06:17-end: Closing comments! We’re trying to wrap it up so that you’re only been deluged with seven hours of podcasting this month. A few things worth mentioning before we go: Graeme briefly discusses the last issue of the Parker/Shaner Flash Gordon, as well as thanking everyone for the wonderful response to the first episode of Baxter Building, our Fantastic Four read-through; and a reminder to look out for: Against The Tote Bags! Places to look for us at—Stitcher! iTunes! Twitter! Tumblr! and, of course, on Patreon where, as of this count, 94 patrons make this whole thing possible.
We’ve finally hit a skip week so check in with us the week after next for Wait, What? Ep. 169, and then the second episode of Baxter Building just a week later! (Which, if you’re reading along with us, will be covering issues #13-24 of vol. 1 of The Fantastic Four.)
Thanks for listening and we’ll see you then!