0:01-6:15:  Greetings! After a very long time, Jeff “Black Friday!” Lester and Graeme “Small Business Saturday!” McMillan are back with their non-Fantastic-Four-focused comics podcast that starts off  being *especially* unfocused. Within the first few minutes, we’re debating what constitutes a device, what kind of liquor you’d find in a Molokov Cocktail, and more exciting not-comics-at-all-we-admit-it topics.
6:15-26:09: But “fortunately” we have The Suicide Bomber Sits In The Library, a book by Jack Gantos and Dave McKean to discuss.  Also mentioned:  G. Willow Wilson’s thread on the same on Twitter; the dissolution of Telltale Games; what publishers can and can’t get away with; and more.
26:09-45:13: Speaking of what publishers can and can’t do, we look a bit at Marvel’s 2018, with an eye toward the strength of the books they’re publishing, which leads us to discuss The Immortal Hulk #9 by Al Ewing, Joe Bennett, Martin Simmonds, Ruy José, and others; Mister Miracle #12 by Tom King and Mitch Gerads;  Heroes in Crisis #3 by Tom King, Lee Weeks, and Clay Mann; and more.
45:13-1:03:07: Graeme mentions he’s seen Bohemian Rhapsody to make a larger point about how your experience of a work can be influenced by its reception but Jeff totally goes crazy with the interrupting because OH MY GOD he just saw Bohemian Rhapsody as well, and how can such a terrible movie be so damn enjoyable?  Of course, we’re going to talk about that!  Also discussed: Huey Lewis and The News; and more.
1:03:07-1:18:00: Comic books!  Quickly discussed:  The Green Lantern #1 by Grant Morrison and Liam Sharp; Avengers #700 by Jason Aaron and Ed McGuinness; Superman #4 and #5 by Brian Bendis and Ivan Reis; and why Jeff gave up on Justice League.
1:18:00-1:36:10: Jeff wanted to Graeme to talk about Electric Warriors #1 by Steve Orlando, Travel Foreman and Hi-Fi.  Also discussed: creators that don’t work for us and why;  the last page of Electric Warriors #1 (which Jeff accidentally spoils at 1:32:27, so be warned).

1:36:10-1:45:58:  Jeff mentioned seeing three movies in one day (one of which being Bohemian Rhapsody).  What are the other two? Discussed:  the second movie Jeff saw, plus Tom Scioli’s Go-Bots #1.
1:45:58-1:52:14: And rather than talk about the last movie he saw that day and have to work hard to slip another comic book review into it, Jeff just decides to openly talk about how much he enjoyed Outer Darkness #1 by John Layman and Afu Chan.
1:52:11=4-2:13:11: And what’s the third movie Jeff saw?  The answer will surprise you! (Maybe? I mean…it’s not impossible, right?) Also discussed: pre-show “entertainment,” movie theaters we go to (or not) and why, a lot of other stuff very un-comic booky…
2:13:11-end:  Closing comments!  Look for us on  Stitcher! Itunes! Instagram! Twitter together and separately: Graeme and Jeff! MattTumblr, and  on Patreon where a wonderful group of people make this all possible, including the kind crew at American Ninth Art Studios and Empress Audrey, Queen of the Galaxy, to whom we are especially grateful for their continuing support of this podcast.  And then we’re out!
NEXT WEEK:  Baxter Building! Read Fantastic Four Annuals #24-27 and join us!
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9 comments on “Wait, What? Ep. 259: As Eloquent As A Dove

  1. Jeff Lester Nov 25, 2018

    And if you need that link for your cutting and pasting needs:

    http://theworkingdraft.com/media/podcasts2/WaitWhat259.mp3

    • Martin Gray Nov 27, 2018

      What I really hate at UK cinemas nowadays – and I assume it’s an American thing – is trailers being preceded by the actors inviting us to check out their latest work, of which they’re deeply proud. Deeply naff.

      I read the very pretty Electric Warriors #1 and it left me pretty much cold, ‘deliberately obtuse’ is a great description, Graeme. Is that a thing other people like? I read on simply for Legion connections, of which there were few, and then came the daft last page reveal which just reminded me of how much I enjoyed Giffen, DeMatteis and Porter’s Justice League 3000/3001, whose mystery antagonist was such a mad swerve that I loved it. Bring THAT back, DC.

      I persevered with The Unexpected until this month because I’ve enjoyed lots of Orlando stuff but the more it links to Metal and Multiversity, the less I care. Plus, Neon the Unknown’s haircut.

      I’m really looking forward to DC realising that the Dark Universe stuff isn’t working – the books have failed (Sideways was great until it went really Metal and Morrison) and now it’s infecting Hawkman… is Dark Universe/Hot Metal DC’s Soule Inhumans? It should just go away.

  2. Daniel Nov 26, 2018

    I don’t get Donny Cates either. He’s pretty much Jason Aaron but is missing a certain something Aaron has and always had even when he was starting out. Maybe the southern grindhouse thing feels more forced from Cates than Aaron?

  3. Bengt Strand Nov 27, 2018

    Jeff, the first three or four issue of Ghost Spider is part of the garbage fire that is Spider Verse 2, I’m not sure they’re even worth pirating. 🙂

  4. Well, I’ve just read Heroes in Crisis No.3 and fail to see what Graeme thinks is great… it just left me feeling flat, with page after page of sad people, soulless robots and creepy robes, followed by horrible violence.

    • Terence Stewart Dec 2, 2018

      A great way to sum up the internet in general. Cheers Mart. 🙂

      • Voord 99 Dec 2, 2018

        Almost, except for the bit about the “creepy robes.” The thing about the Internet is that you can’t be sure that the people responsible for the soulless bots, sadness, and horrible (rhetorical) violence aren’t completely naked.

        • Terence Stewart Dec 3, 2018

          True dat, but the masks and creepy robes are just another man’s internet anonymity.
          I subscribe to the theory that Sanctuary is Facebook. All that tech under the guise of connecting people (WW’ s `compassion’?), all laced with a nefarious endgame.

  5. Eric R Nov 30, 2018

    Speaking of The Raid, has Jeff seen Apostle, Gareth Evans newest film? It’s a Netflix film so I wouldn’t be surprised if Netflix hasn’t let Jeff know it even exists but I’d be curious about his thoughts on the film.

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